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You definitely will have to eat and drink in Redemption. But I want to know which way you would like this feature more:

When the Avatar is hungry / thirsty
1.) you have to feed him manually
2.) he will automatically eat /drink what he has in his backpack (= you only have to take care that there is something available in the inventory


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I’d prefer to have to feed him manually. IMHO, it is more immersive that way (with potential influence on his health state modifying his capacity to think or to see clearly, etc…). If the Avatar is not alone, the others may automatically eat /drink (part of their AI) what they have in the inventory making them more alive and self-governing.

Even if the second option is chosen, it could be as well of some interest to take care that the food don’t get rotten (natural process in time for fresh food bough on market for example) or get poisoned or get ruined (if you travel in the middle of a swamp, it may happen.)

To modify the “quality” of the food could also lead to a laughable situation like making a guard runs to the “backhouse” or whatever he could find that fits his business :rofl. Well that doesn’t sound very virtuous, but that looks worth the thinking (it can be seen as an act of resistance after all). The avatar or his party could suffer similar issues if not for the same cause (or maybe for the same cause ? :mrgreenSmile
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what about handling it like ultima 6 did - your party may camp at night and everyone automatically eats. I found it very annoying to keep manually feeding complaining party members in U7. Without some kind of automation it just becomes so annoying ... I mean it's supposed to be fun, that's the point right? If not then party members should also complain about "needing to pee", having rocks in the their boots and countless other things ;-)
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what about handling it like ultima 6 did - your party may camp at night and everyone automatically eats. I found it very annoying to keep manually feeding complaining party members in U7. Without some kind of automation it just becomes so annoying ... I mean it's supposed to be fun, that's the point right? If not then party members should also complain about "needing to pee", having rocks in the their boots and countless other things ;-)


Thanks for your thoughts on this, but "fun" is something very different for each person. Else it would not be difficult to find the right thing to do. Some don't want that at all... why eat and drink? What if someone doesn't camp - does he then not need to eat? Why do you have to camp? Because you have to sleep? but then again, when you have to sleep anyway then the eating / drinking need will be obsolete (beside that you have to have soemthing to eat and drink with you once a night). It is not that easy.

The fun of having to eat/drink more than once a day is that you have to prepare before you go out into a dungeon or a region where you don't have a tavern right aound the corner. Either you prepare in a way that you take enough food with you, or that you have everything to hunt, like maybe traps and something to cook meat in etc.. It adds to the roleplaying experience. That's the idea behind it.

It is decided that it will be one of the two ways above, so its easier for all of you to choose Wink

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I always found it very entertaining when my companions got hurt by hunger in U7, and I can't actually remember finding it boring or "unfun" to feed my beloved friends.

But if I can't use "create food" then I won't play the game. I'll only end up starving to death in some dungeon. Adventure preparations isn't my kind of thing. Smile At least I think so, but it never was a problem in U7 to don't have enough food, it was just to enter a house or a tavern and fill the backpacks. Very nice people, those brittannians. Smile
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I've always said that to include eating and drinking it has to be done in the right way so I usually say no to it. But in this case I believe Corv can pull it off so that it will indeed be fun to feed yourself. Thus this will be my first and only time I'll say yes to manual eating and drinking. Wink


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The idea of having to prepare for an expedition is half the fun of actually exploring. Bow check; arrows check; wine check; food check; torch.... Damn, I knew there'd be something. There's ALWAYS something! *trudges back to Britain* :lol:

Besides, I get the impression that it's a tad impolite to venture into Deceit, run into a headless, start to get hunger pains and then politely ask "do you mind if we put this one hold while I have a bite to eat? I'm slightly peckish!" I like the thought of having plan ahead and find a nice, quiet hole in the wall to set up your picnic. :lol:


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I'd go for manual for one thing. Quests. What if you have a quest to pick up pumpkins, but your party decides to eat them before you can deliver. It always annoyed me when in SI my party drank the ice wine that was a clue to getting my equipment back. I ended up putting it (and the pumpkin :p ) in a bag I could drop everytime I used the F key.

Then again, I'm sure you're thinking "Scripting food to be eaten manually would be horrible". So you might wanna go with auto.


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Then again, I'm sure you're thinking "Scripting food to be eaten manually would be horrible". So you might wanna go with auto.


No it's not about what is easier to script (else we would not have most of the features we built in Wink - we are used to torture ourselves to be sure to make a good game). It's really only about what is prefered.


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Would it be possible to have manual feeding be the default but have a secondary mod that you could optionally install to make it auto?
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