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Welcome to the Titans of Ether Cooking Competition!

Proudly we announce the biggest contest of culinary skills Britannia has ever seen. Fabulous prizes are waiting for you ... Well, not exactly like that.

As you might have guessed from our various posts about the state of Redemption, the game currently is a collection of unassembled parts with most skills being mere skeletons without much content. We are now getting to a stage where this will change.

This is a huge task and since our resources are as limited as ever, we decided trying to outsource a part of it. We are now asking you, faithful community, to help us out to fill the empty skeleton of the cooking skill with um ... meat.

What we need is a list of meals that can be cooked from the available ingredients. We can offer no other prize than including your receipt in the game.

If you want to participate, please post your receipt in this thread (you can write one or more receipts per post). Each entry must have the following format:

Name: Name of the receipt
Ingredients: List of ingredients; different quantities allowed, but please limit yourself to abstract units (2x, 3x, ...)
Description: Give a description how to cook the meal. This text will be used in a cookbook or maybe a scroll. It can be a bit fancy, but please don't produce too many misleading instructions about the procedure, since the actual in-game cooking process simply is: make/find a fire, put a pot on it, throw the ingredients into the pot, take the finished meal out of the pot.

You don't need to provide any in-game stats for the meal (most meals will simply counter the player's hunger, but some will provide buffs too). We will assign them accordingly the difficulty of getting the ingredients. You can add suggestions, though.

Here is the list of available ingredients:

Watermelon
Tomato
Pear
Orange
Onion
Corn
Carrot
Banana
Apple
Cheese
Blue Cheese
Hard Cheese
Brown Sugar
Meat
Coconuts
Salt
Pepper
Lettuce
Parsley
Chive
Clove
Basil
Beans
Fish
Eggs
Water
Wine
Beer
Milk
Butter
Flour
Mushrooms
Bread
Oil

If you like, you can come up with some exotic, hard to get (Britannia-style) ingredients of your own, though these should be used in a few special receipts only. But don't overdo it. We won't add many more ingredients (the current selection already puts quite some strain on our modelling department).

We hope for an active participation and thank you in advance for your contribution.
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I moved it in the News section so it appears on the homepage too.

I can't wait to see some creative meals.

I got quite some mails of people who say they want to help but don't have any experience in creating a game. This is your chance to contribute! Smile
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O.K. Here we go:

BRITISH STEW;

Light fire, put on pot to warm.
Add Meat
Chop and add Onions
Chop and add Carrot
Cook for 5 Minutes
Add water
Add Salt
Add pepper
Add Basil
Add Corn
Cook until done.

N.B. I had to add water in addition to the prescribed ingredients - it can either be added to the list or procured some other way.

FRENCH ONION SOUP

Light Fire
Add pot to warm.
Add Chopped Onions and cook
Add water
Add salt
Add Pepper
Cook Until Done
Grate Cheese on top..

I can think of loads more

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Hi All,

There are a few recipes I know of that would be worth including, but I need to know a couple things first.

Will there be some fermented, ground or made ingredients ?
(e.g: vinegar, alcoholic beverage, flour, stock, spices, sausages, breads, etc...)

I got 3 recipes in mind but I don't know if they are applicable, although I'm more than happy to change them to reflect the game Smile :

- Lamb Curry
- Beef in Beer
- Braised Pork

Please let me know about other ingredients as well as how I should proceed (is there nutmeg ? Big Grin )

Cheers and bon appetit!
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@Fred-A: Water is a good idea. I will add it to the list.

Receipts should in general be Britannia-style. While it might be possible that the Avater has brought some with him from Earth, I think FRENCH ONION SOUP is not so good. Also, could you please stick to the format given in the first post? The description part should be something we can actually copy & paste into an in-game cookbook (full sentences, not just a collection of headwords).

Anyway, nice try. And now I am getting hungry Frown

@Firetooth: We don't want the system to become too complex, so it is unlikely that you will get all the ingredients you mentioned. Some might be possible, though. The thought of using alcoholic beverage hasn't occured to me (okay, I admit it, I don't have the slightest idea about cooking). We will have to investigate the situation and will get back to you in a couple of days.
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Ok, I try with the beef in beer recipe, putting in brackets ingredients that are not in the list (except for garlic which is not in the list but I know exists in Ultima Big Grin )

Let's see if I get somewhere with this:

Name: Beef in Beer

Ingredients: 1 beef meat, 2 onions, 1 garlic, (1 bacon), (1 butter), (1 flour), 1 beer (from your local tavern Wink ), (1 vinegar), 1 brown sugar, (2 stocks, can be replaced by 2 waters...), (1 nutmeg), (1 mixed herbs)

Description: Place butter, diced meat, chopped bacon, chopped onions in pot, add garlic, stock (or water), flour, beer, vinegar, brown sugar, nutmeg, add some mixed herbs and cook for 3 hours Smile

I await your comments Smile

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Very nice. As I seid before, we need to check the ingredients first, but I think we take this one.
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Beef in beer... I think Dupre would love this one if he'd be still alive Smile
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Name: Eggs British.

Author : Boots of Britain, Lord British's head cook.

Ingredients: 8 eggs, 80ml (1/3 cup) milk, 1 spoonful of salt, 3 spoonfuls of butter, black pepper. 2 slices of thick toasted bread.

Description: Eggs British is made by mixing eggs together with milk, cream or water to produce moist, soft folds or "clouds" of egg when cooked. Free-range eggs tend to have more flavour and generally give the mixed ingredients a richer yellow colour.

Crack the eggs into a medium mixing bowl. This is best done by first cracking each egg, one at a time, into a small bowl before sliding it into the mixing bowl, so that thou canst remove any blood spots or pieces of shell. Add milk and salt. Be sure to measure the milk carefully, as the cooked eggs will only hold a certain amount of liquid and too much will cause the eggs to "weep" moisture. Use a fork to whisk the egg mixture lightly until the ingredients are combined. The eggs should be mixed through evenly to ensure a consistent yellow without streaks of egg white.

There is one Axiom when cooking our liege lord's favourite breakfast: do not cook the eggs at high temperatures, as this will surely cause the eggs to stick to the pan and become flaky and dry. Heat the butter in a deep frying pan for one minute or until the butter begins to foam, making sure to lightly coat the pans base with the butter.

Add the egg mixture to the frying pan and cook over a fire for 30 seconds. Use a flat-topped wooden spoon to gently push the egg mixture, scraping the top of the spoon along the base of the pan, from one side of the pan to the other in 4 different directions. Soft folds of cooked egg will begin to develop.

Repeat the pushing action with the spoon every 10 seconds (or slow count to 10), including around the pan edge to prevent the egg mixture sticking. The important part of this step is to push the spoon through the mixture and lift and fold the eggs rather than stir, as stirring will break the egg up into small lumps.

Do this often during cooking to prevent the egg mixture sticking and forming more of an omelette rather than moist, soft folds of "scrambled" eggs. Cook for 2 minutes or until about three-quarters of the mixture is cooked and one-quarter is still liquid.

Remove the pan from the fire or oven and use the wooden spoon to gently fold the egg mixture twice more. The remaining heat in the pan will finish cooking the eggs.

Spoon the eggs onto some fresh toasted bread, dust lightly with black pepper and serve immediately.


* Note : Boots actually mentioned in Ultima VII : The Black Gate, that Eggs British (or scrambled eggs,) was a recipe that Lord British brought with him from Earth, and one that he often requests. It is, according to boots, his favourite breakfast, and can be served with fruit and tea as side dishes. Hopefully it wasn't too detailed, but essentially, it's just scrambled eggs, which is really quite easy to make.

** Here's a simplified version.

A: Crack eggs into a mixing bowl, add milk and salt. Stir the ingredients.

B: Preheat pan with butter, add contents of mixing bowl and cook for 2 minutes.

C: Serve on toasted bread, add black pepper.


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Name: Spektran's Gingerbread

Author: a long missing courtesan of the most Noble and Magnificent Sultan of Spektran Evil

Ingredients:

- 1 lb. Honey

I prefer organic, or at least something made with a flavored flower blossom. Empath Abbey's is my favorite

- unseasoned bread crumbs, up to a pound

- 1 mature coconut

- pepper, up to ½ tsp.

- ginger, up to 1 Tbs.

- cinnamon, up to 1 Tbs.

- pinch saffron

The most Noble and Magnificent Sultan of Spektran granted me those rare spices from his private garden

Description:

- Bring the honey to a boil (and skim off any scum)
- Add the spices at a very low heat
- Slowly beat in the bread crumbs
- Remove from the heat
- Grate the coconut over the mixture
- Turn the mixture onto a lightly greased square
- Take a rolling pin & spread the gingerbread
- Turn the pan over onto parchment paper, and tap gently until the gingerbread falls from the pan
- Turn the gingerbread over once again, then cut into small favored shape to serve.

The most Noble and Magnificent Sultan of Spektran likes it decorated with small candy leaves attached to each piece with a clove.

It has come to my ears that the drunkards of Bucc's Den used rum in place of the saffron in the recipe. They say it has the same effect. Well, it is true that saffron relieves the most Noble and Magnificent Sultan of Spektran from the burden of the difficult task of his reign. But it doesn't make him roll under the table like those pirates!

Remarks:

The last 4 steps may be simplified as

- Shape the gingerbread and serve.

Imho, honey is a good alternative for sugar in medieval-like cook recipes.

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Zini: Your coments are noted and I will have another go shortly to get my recipies in line with the format you require. However first, just a few points: First if you are already having difficulty with the size of the ingrediants list, why have three different types of cheese?
Wheras you need to be as simple as possible with quantities, there is difficulty with seasonings like salt and pepper if quantities will be needed. ie only a "pinch" of these is required in recipies and to have to specify say 1x of salt will mean specifying about 200x of meat! The same occurrs with your herb selection. On the other hand, if the "x" in your original specification can be taken to mean lb, kg, gm, pinch, tbsp, teaspoon e.t.c as some are doing, then this solves that problem.

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quote:
First if you are already having difficulty with the size of the ingrediants list, why have three different types of cheese?


I listed it, because it was already in the masterfile and so we don't have to waste modelling resources on making it. No idea how we ended up with three different types of cheese in the first place. They were put there when the first masterfile was created (around 2004, I think).

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ie only a "pinch" of these is required in recipies and to have to specify say 1x of salt will mean specifying about 200x of meat!


1 unit of salt doesn't have to be the same physical amount as 1 unit of meat.

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On the other hand, if the "x" in your original specification can be taken to mean lb, kg, gm, pinch, tbsp, teaspoon e.t.c as some are doing, then this solves that problem.


This is basically the idea, yes.
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Beef in beer... I think Dupre would love this one if he'd be still alive

Yes, I can see the plot evolving here... Go to depths of the Abyss, defeat the ghost pirate guarding the magic root, brew some magical root beer and resurrect Dupre from the Ashes with the ancient Beef in Beer ritual ('In Mani Corp Ylem')... We don't need no silly U9A chalice-and-shrine-resurrection Big Grin .


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All very nice. Please keep them coming! You might want to stick a bit more to the original ingredients list.

That said, I decided to add the following ingredients:
- Wine
- Beer
- Milk
- Butter

I am reviewing a couple of extra ingredients, but most likely you won't get many more.
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Let's try this one next... (the ingredients in brackets can be removed to fit the game, it's just not as nice Wink )

Name: Southern Braised Pork

Ingredients: (1 vegetable oil), 1 butter, 4 pork, 2 garlic, 1 onion, 1 milk, (5 juniper berries), (2 rosemary), salt and black pepper

Description:
Heat the oil and the butter in pot and fry the pork, garlic and onion for about 15 minutes untill the pork is brown on all sides.
Add the milk, juniper berries, rosemary and seasoning.
Bring to the boil, cover and turn the heat down and cook for 1 1/2 to 2 hours until the pork is tender, turning and basting from time to time.
Transfer the pork to a warmed serving dish and carve into thick slices.
Discard the juniper berries and rosemary.
The milky juices will look curdled, so rub the sauce through a sie ve or liquidise in a blender until smooth.
Taste and adjust the seasoning.
Pour a little of the sauce over the slices and serve the remaining sauce seperately.
Garnish with sprigs of rosemary.
Serves 4

Bon appétit!
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Hi,

I was wondering what is involved inn actually creating ingredients for the game ? (scripting/graphic designing/etc...)

If it's in my abilities, I'm more than willing to give a hand on that part Smile

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Hi all, I finally decided to register here, though I've been lurking forever.

I registered here tonight to simply tell you one thing for now:

you MUST add "flour" as an ingredient option, absolutely must.

Flour is considered one of the main staple ingredients used in many dishes (like eggs, butter, milk). You will find your options for making recipes severely limited by not including it.

That said, I cook and could contribute recipes from looking at your ingreds, but not right now since I'm about to go to bed. I'll try to post some recipes tomorrow.

See ya later,
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quote:
I was wondering what is involved inn actually creating ingredients for the game ? (scripting/graphic designing/etc...)


Well, the 3D models must be made. Then we need inventory icons. And the ingredients must be placed into the game world. And then they must be integrated into the cooking scripts.

The first 3 points are the really time-consuming part, though the scripting is not without problems either. In Morrowind scripts have a maximal length and there are situations, where it is simply not possible to split a script up. Theoretically that should not be a problem with the cooking-stuff. But let's just say I have been bitten by this limit before (painfully) and maybe I am a bit paranoid about it.

That said, I think we can add a couple of new ingredients sometime next week (still have to check some candidates in-game and with the modelling-department).

quote:
If it's in my abilities, I'm more than willing to give a hand on that part


You are helping quite a lot by providing the receipts. Beyond that we are always recruiting, but the job requires very specific skills: We have open positions at interior worldbuilding and dialogue writing and maybe 3D modelling too (would need to ask Spyder about that first).
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Okay guys, here are the recipes I came up with this morning:

Name: Salad
Ingredients: 2x lettuce, 1x tomato, 1x onion, 1x carrot, 1x blue cheese (as in blue cheese dressing)
Description: Chop all of the vegetables until they are bitesized, then toss them into a bowl. Sprinkle blue cheese dressing on top.

Name: Ambrosia (aka Fruit Salad)
Ingredients: 1x orange, 1x banana, 1x apple, 1x brown sugar, 1x butter, 1x coconut
Description: Cut the fruits into small pieces; set aside. Boil butter and brown sugar until slightly caramelized - mix this well into the fruits. Grate coconut and sprinkle on top of whole dish.

Name: Pear Cobbler
Ingredients: 3x pears, 1x milk, 1x egg, 1x flour, 1x butter, 1x clove
Description: Dice the pears. Combine milk, egg, butter, flour, and clove in separate bowl and mix til of dough-like consistency. Drop dough by spoonfuls over diced pears; bake for 20 minutes.

Name: Baked Beans
Ingredients: 3x beans, 1x onion, 1x brown sugar, 1x tomato, 1x salt, 1x meat (pretend it's bacon or something)
Description: Chop up tomato, onion, and meat. Then add the rest of the ingredients into the chopped ingredients; mix thoroughly. Bake for 1 hour.

Name: Corn Bread
Ingredients: 2x corn, 1x milk, 1x butter, 2x egg, 1x salt
Description: Grind dry corn into corn meal. Mix the corn meal with the rest of the ingredients until a dough forms. Shape dough into loaves. Bake for 45 minutes, until golden brown on top.

Name: Drunk Fish
Ingredients: 2x fish, 1x beer, 1x parsley, 2x chive, 1x salt, 2x pepper, 1x basil, 1x milk, 1x flour (optional)
Description: De-bone and then chop the fish. In cook pot, add all of the ingredients, except for the parsely. Boil the ingredients for 1 hour. Add some sprigs of parsley on top of the soup. *You can add "1x flour" to thicken the soup more.

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Name: Shepherd's pie.

Author : Unknown.

Ingredients: 1 spoonful of olive oil, 1 onion, 1 tomato, 1 carrot, 500g minced beef or lamb, 2 spoonfuls of flour, 4 potatoes, 1 butter, 125ml (1/2 cup) milk, 1 cup of water, 1 salt, 1 black pepper, 1 spoonful tomato paste.

Description: Finely chop onion, tomato, carrot and potatoes. Heat oil in a large saucepan over oven or fire. Add chopped onion, tomato and carrot and cook, stirring, for 5 minutes or until soft. Add lamb or beef mince and cook, stirring to break up any lumps, for 5 minutes or until the mince changes colour.

Add flour and cook, stirring, for 2 minutes or until combined. Add tomato paste. Bring to the boil. Continue to cook at about medium heat, stirring occasionally, for 30 minutes or until the paste thickens. Taste and season with salt and pepper.

Meanwhile, cook potatoes in a saucepan of salted boiling water for 15 minutes or until tender. Drain well. Add butter. Use a fork to mash the potatoes until smooth. Add milk and use a wooden spoon to stir until combined. Again, taste and season with salt and pepper.

Spoon the beef or lamb mixture into a 2L (8-cup) baking dish. Top with mashed potato and use a fork to spread over the beef or lamb mixture. Brush with butter. Cook in oven for 20 minutes or until mashed potato is golden brown. Serve immediately.


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